Extracts from Newspapers re Palterton 1911 to 1915

Derby Daily Telegraph 6 September 1912.

HORSE HOLDS UP RAILWAY TRADE
REMARKABLE BOLSOVER INCIDENT
A remarkable accident, involving injuries to a horse, occurred at the level crossing Bolsover yesterday.  The animal, which was attached to a trap started to cross the line, when it suddenly ? out of the course and mounted the Platform ... one of the wheels of the trap ran over the edge of the platform, and both horse and vehicle fell headlong on to the line.  Both shafts of the trap were broken, and as the horse showed no inclination to rise it was placed on planks and pushed along the rails until the crossing was reached.  Traffic was suspended for forty minutes.

Derbyshire Daily Telegraph dated Monday, 27 January 1913.

RAILWAYMEN'S CONSERVATIVE ASSOCIATION

Mr. J, H. Thomas's Exposure of Derby Tories.

AN AMUSING SITUATION.

Mr, J. H. Thomas, M.P., addressing a meeting of his supporters at the St. James's Hall on Sunday afternoon, related an amusing story, in which he left it delightfully vague whether the Tory party in Derby were fooling or were being fooled.  He said he held in his hand a circular issued from 3, Full-street, Derby, the office of the Derby Conservative and Unionist Association, dated Nov.15th, 1912, and signed "R. H. Vessey, Conservative agent."  It was issued to the railwaymen for the purpose of forming a Railwaymen's Conservative and Unionist Association.  It was to be a private meeting for all grades, and was held at the Beaconsfield Club on Nov. 21st. at eight o'clock.  The circular said Mr. Joseph Thornton, a Trade Unionist and an old railway employee. will address the meeting, and Mr. Beck and Mr. Fraser will be present," and it went on to give the following titbit:  Undoubtedly an organisation of this description is capable of furthering, the Unionist cause,and will greatly assist us to win at the next general election." (Laughter.)  He (Mr. Thomas) was not complaining that such an association was formed; the Tories were quite within their rights in doing that.  But what he did protest against was the method in which they went to work.  Mr. Joseph Thornton who addressed the meeting was not Mr. Joseph Thornton at all.  That was not his name, though, of course, that may have been a clerical error. (Laughter.)  You may judge as to that when I tell you who he is, added the hon. member.  "He is Mr. Joseph Thornhill a member of our own society, who has received a victimisation grant from the society and who has been paid unemployment benefits from the same quarter.  He left the Labour party because it was not sufficiently advanced for him, and he is now a member of the British Socialist party. (Laughter)  Imagine how bankrupt the other side must be when they have to bring down a Socialist orator like Mr. Joseph Thornhill to plead their cause. (Laughter)  One of our own members was present at the meeting and heard the address of Mr. Thornhill, who afterwards admitted that his name was not Thornton.  The ostensible object of that meeting, proceeded, was to point out not that his politics or his policy were wrong, but that he was holding a dual position.  The chairman was Counc. Oswald Ling.  He was not going to inquire how many jobs Mr. Ling held, but he knew it was more than one, and it was therefore somewhat inconsistent of that gentlemen to preside at a meeting at which he (Mr. Thomas) was attacked for holding a dual office.  Nor had he inquired whether Mr. Beck was an engineer, although at each election he had so described himself, nor whether the Master of Saltoun had any other occupation than that of a gentleman. (Laughter).  It showed, however, how badly off the Tories were for argument when they gave up fighting principles and imported a member of the A.S.R.S. and a pronounced Socialist, to tell the railwaymen of Derby what they knew before, namely. that when he (Mr. Thomas) was elected to his present position he was already member of Parliament.  When the Osborne judgment was delivered it became possible for him to receive money from the society as a Parliamentary representative, and the circumstances under which he was elected an officer of the society were well enough known, and there was no back-door method about it. (Hear, hear)  There might be a sequel to this visit of Mr. Thornhill to Derby, because certain charges which that gentleman made at this meeting of Tory railwaymen were being investigated by the Executive Committee of the A.S.R.S. and as they were subjudice he would not deal with them on this occasion.  He did, however, welcome the opportunity of exposing the tactics of the Tory party in preferring personalities to principles. (Applause.)
My note: On the 1911 census, Joseph Thornhill, aged 34 years, a Commercial Traveller Private re?, born Borrowash, Derby. was living with his wife and family at Ten Row, Palterton near Chesterfield.  Although the house number was not stated it was either number 1 or 10 and I believe it was number 1, which was the house where years later my Richards family lived and was my home from 1940 to 1957.

Derbyshire Daily Telegraph, dated Saturday, 8 March 1913.
MR. J. H. THOMAS, M.P., AND MR. JOSEPH THORNHLLL.
(To the Editor of the "Derby Daily Telegraph",
Sir, Amongst various statements Mr. J. H. Thomas, M.P., made at the meeting on January 26th in regard to myself he is reported in your issue of the 27th to have said : "He left the Labour party because it was not sufficiently advanced for him, and now a member of the British Socialist party."  I have asked Mr. Thomas under date of Jan. 29th, by letter, to substantiate those statements.  The questions I put to the hon. member were: "What Labour party?"  When did I leave it, and what branch of the British Socialist party am I now a member of?"  Up to the time of writing I have had no answer from Mr. Thomas, although I wrote him again on February 8th, also on the 17th, but still Mr. Thomas is silent.  I now leave it to the judgment of your readers as to the value of Mr. Thomas's statements which he made at the meeting referred to.  Needless to say, they are not true, and I challenge Mr. Thomas to prove otherwise.  Again, Mr.Thomas talks about preferring personalities to principles.  I can only say he is himself very qualified for this sort of thing.  He stated: "He has received a victimisation grant from the society, and had been paid unemployment benefit from the same quarter."  Is this not preferring personalities to principles?  Allow me to say that I have not received a victimisation grant from the society as
Mr. Thomas would endeavour make his auditors believe, i.e., a lump sum of 50.  As the rules provide, I simply had wages made up for twelve months the maximum amount I was in receipt of when I was victimised, and my wages in consequence reduced.  Then, again, as to the unemployment benefit, I was justly entitled to it by the rules of the society.  I paid my contributions, as all Trade Unionists do, for that purpose (that is one the objects of Trade Unionism), and I claim that Mr. Thomas has no right throw that sort of argument in the face of any member on a public platform.  Of course, Mr. Thomas would not call this a personality, but I say such statements are wholly unjust and grossly unfair to any member who may be so unfortunate as to require these benefits.
l am, sir, Yours-, etc., Joseph Thornhill Palterton, near Chesterfield,  Mar. 3rd, 1913.

Extracts from Newspapers re Palterton 1911 to 1915


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